More than any other single relationship, it was his friendship with Jack Kerouac. So what brought my father to any kind of clarity on these issues, while at Columbia? This is where opinions and sources come to another clash.
At any rate, he was admitted to a mental hospital where he stayed between 2 weeks and 6 months (there was no reliable source readily available for this).Īfter this incident Carr’s mother took him to New York with him and enrolled him at Columbia University. Some suggest this may be linked to Kammerer’s exploitation of Carr (Kammerer had followed him to Chicago) whilst others believe he was merely trying to create a 'work of art’ with this suicide attempt. Lucien Carr tried to kill himself during his time at the University of Chicago - something his son never mentions in his essay. Carr’s mother must have known or suspected something was amiss, though, since she kept sending her sons to different schools. Keeping both his emotional attachment and the social mores of the times in mind, it seems unlikely that Carr would have spoken up about any sexual transgressions between them. All this is consistent with the typical sexual predator’s MO so this seems like a plausible explanation. Kammerer would have been the first father figure in Carr’s life. In addition to that, the definition of masculinity was different back then being raped by another man might have made Carr look ‘weak’ and 'effeminate’.Ĭaleb Carr also thinks that his grandfather’s absence from Lucien Carr’s life might have had something to do with his acceptance of Kammerer’s presence in his life. A child could not make accusations against an adult and expect to be believed. It’s important to understand, however, that these were very different times. ( 1)Ĭaleb Carr goes on to describe how Kammerer courted and groomed his father, using many techniques that would nowadays immediately raise red flags. Carr’s son, Caleb Carr, says:įirst off, the facts of the case: David Kammerer did not begin his obsession, as you have rightly suspected, when my father was an adult: it began when my father was only twelve or so, and Kammerer was his Boy Scout troop leader (and the fact that my father later killed Kammerer with his Boy Scout knife is not something that any psychologist or detective I know would ever dare to call a coincidence). It appears that Kammerer took an interest in him - more than he should have. When he was a teenager, he met David Kammerer through the Boy Scouts.
Lucien Carr was born in 1925 - five years later his father left the family, leaving Carr’s mother to care for her son. I am far from an expert on Beat poets, but I do know a thing or two about research and distortion of historical facts. Since the film was released on Blu Ray a couple of days ago I felt it was a good opportunity to talk about what actually happened back then. Hakobyan.Kill Your Darlings: What Really Happened Between Lucien Carr and David Kammerer As a result, the bride of the killed, the bride's mother և brother, 22-year-old M. Seeing this scene, the bride's family members get involved in an argument, swearing is heard, after which the girl's brother stabs his future son-in-law, Arsen Simonyan, and he dies. An unpleasant conversation starts in the couple over the letter that came to the phone number, during which Arsen Simonyan grabs his bride's throat. During that time, a letter arrived on the groom's phone number, when the future bride inquired who had written to Arsen Simonyan, and the latter refused to give his girlfriend the phone, in general, to show who had written a letter to him.
The point is that on the night of November 8, 36-year-old Arsen Simonyan was at his beloved daughter's house, the family members were sitting around the table. It was later reported in the press that the 27-year-old girl's brother had killed his future son-in-law, Arsen Simonyan, for cursing. This was reported to LURER ից by the Investigative Committee. There are 3 people arrested in connection with the murder that took place yesterday, November 8, in one of the houses on Norik Street in the Haghtanak district of Malatia-Sebastia administrative district, and a motion for arrest will probably be submitted tomorrow.